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Title: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: RiceGuard on July 24, 2010, 12:55:40 pm
So basically the show is a spin off of the idea of pitting warriors or soldiers from different time and era and facing them off with each other.
Of course the results would be base on the power and efficiency of a weapon.
Overall the show is like a intellectual kiddie argument about who is more bad ass lol.

and alot of crying from both side of the party... Its a good show but I find it ridiculous sometime.
Seriously?... a Yakuza using a Sai in battle?... seriously? LMAO!


I find this as a weak excuse to say who would win in a fight... Of course weapons were a factor in deciding victory.
But time and time again, even superior warriors were defeated by lesser equip enemies.

:o The show should showface instead military tactic deploy by the opposing party, who would be in charge, and how default commander in charge
would determine the course of action to take. Say for example Genghis Khan Army vs Alexander the Great Army,  or perhaps the Crip Gang Organization vs the Italian Mafia of the 50's with plausible determining factor and scenario for defeat and victory of each army.

Soo



Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: Yutrzenika on July 24, 2010, 02:07:59 pm
Wait, what?
You want us to do our own Deadliest Warrior fights or something?


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: RiceGuard on July 24, 2010, 02:25:48 pm
Wait, what?
You want us to do our own Deadliest Warrior fights or something?

:3 no.... but I think that would been a better suggestion of the show... rather then base everything on the power of a weapon.


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: Yutrzenika on July 24, 2010, 02:35:10 pm
Yeah, I'm actually watching it right now. It's Pirates vs Knights.


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: LordSappington on July 24, 2010, 02:38:15 pm
The problem with your idea is that there would be even more factors, most of which are impossible to simulate. It's just easier to give each weapon certain 'kill points' or something. I'd guess they'd add in other factors, like maybe some formula to guess if it missed, or whatever.


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: RiceGuard on July 24, 2010, 03:12:21 pm
But that doesn't justify which warrior would beat who... I mean can you honestly say that a Yakuza would fight with a sai against the mafia?.
I mean seriously that just kinda blunt... I mean even the classes of warrior pitted against each other was kinda ridiculous.

Ninja vs Spartan Warriors?... that is not even the same tier match.


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: Yutrzenika on July 24, 2010, 03:14:35 pm
They might against other Yakuza groups. But didn't the Mafia have Tommy Guns? I never saw that episode. It's like bringing a knife to a gun fight.


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: RiceGuard on July 24, 2010, 03:29:16 pm
They might against other Yakuza groups. But didn't the Mafia have Tommy Guns? I never saw that episode. It's like bringing a knife to a gun fight.

Yeah the Yakuza was armed with the "Sten" and that was pitted against the Tommy.
But seriously Nunchaku and Sai... I lulz... Personally aside from the fire arm I don't think the Mafia or the Yakuza had a prefer special melee weapon
beside whatever they can find or what they on hands... say bat or iron pipe bar.


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: Yutrzenika on July 24, 2010, 03:31:51 pm
(http://www.prexis.com/sten/sten_web_picture.JPG)
A Sten? A world war II era British 9mm SMG seem an unusual weapon for the Yakuza.


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: RiceGuard on July 24, 2010, 03:36:56 pm
apparently it was, or so they claim... I would expect the Yakuza to be armed with the Imperial Japanese Type 100. Machine gun.


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: Yutrzenika on July 24, 2010, 03:41:32 pm
I was thinking something more modern, like an Uzi.


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: Cheez on July 24, 2010, 03:52:25 pm
They were probably old-timey Yaks.

Anyhoo, I saw an episode of it- Viking vs. Samurai- and to be honest I thought it was ridiculous. They showed how the weapons were used, which was good. They only used the weapons against the corresponding weapon from the other side, which was bad. Seriously, the Viking just stood there waiting patiently with his shield slung over his back while the samurai fired arrows at him. Anyone stupid enough to not A. use the bloody shield and B. try to charge the bowman down wouldn't have survived his first raid. Or maybe even childhood...


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: Yutrzenika on July 24, 2010, 04:08:43 pm
I saw the Spetsnaz vs. Green Beret Episode, they we're testing the two different grenades, a Russian one, and an American one, now what was dumb is that the two tests performed we're completely different. They threw the Russian Grenade into a Washing Machine surrounded by Dummys, and then the American one in a small concealed room. They said the American one was better because the blast radius was bigger. But of course the blast radius isn't going to be big if you toss it in a fucking washing machine.
They also don't take into consideration the skill of the user either, they tested Makarov Pistol against Beretta 92. Makarov is 9x18mm MAK, and Beretta 9x19mm NATO. They said the Makarov is a better pistol because the dude landed more shots with it, that doesn't make the gun better, that makes the shooter better, I would have personally said the 92 is more accurate, and the 92 is highly regarded as a highly accurate pistol. The same can be said for the Sniper Rifle Challenge.


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: RiceGuard on July 24, 2010, 04:31:59 pm
I was thinking something more modern, like an Uzi.

Well technically they were comparing the 50's version... as how the film was being portrayed out... I unno man
it still seemed like a King Kong vs Godzilla thing with all the fact wrong.


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: Yutrzenika on July 24, 2010, 07:02:42 pm
Right now I'm watching Jesse James Gang vs. Al Capone Gang. Let's see how this works out...


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: sok on July 24, 2010, 07:08:52 pm
jedi vs harry potter is something that i would like to watch


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: Yutrzenika on July 24, 2010, 07:20:51 pm
Jedi wins. XD


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: HK-47 on July 25, 2010, 01:36:52 am
Jedi wins. XD


Mmm-hm.
Darth Vader would mess up some punk ass wizard in training.
Exar Kun, Naga Sadow, Darth Bane... Hell, practically any Sith Lord worth their salt would slay that Potter fella.
I'm saying this with having little knowledge of Harry Potter.


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: Yutrzenika on July 25, 2010, 02:04:36 am
I'm saying what I said with little knowledge of Harry Potter, and with little care.  ;D

Oh yeah, and Jesse James Gang won over Al Capone Gang in the episode, because Jesse James Gang was more precise with their combat, where as Al Capone just fired from the hip, and did hit and run type attacks.


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: RiceGuard on July 25, 2010, 03:33:24 am
Jedi ftw....


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: dudesomebody on July 25, 2010, 08:01:58 pm
I would love to see them do an episode with a regular joe versus a zombie; now that would be epic. It would be more of a joke episode but no more than any of there other episodes.


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: sok on July 26, 2010, 02:21:39 pm
brother vs brother.
alexanders the great army vs Abrams tank.


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: RiceGuard on July 26, 2010, 05:39:57 pm
I would love to see them do an episode with a regular joe versus a zombie; now that would be epic. It would be more of a joke episode but no more than any of there other episodes.

*snicker* it would be better off to watch the biggest loser vs zombies XD


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: sok on July 27, 2010, 01:33:48 pm
michael jackson vs madonna.
that, would be epic.


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: B-Chan on July 27, 2010, 01:38:07 pm
Sok        VS        Tanaj


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: BrainBlow on July 27, 2010, 01:39:27 pm
Sok        VS        Tanaj
epic


Paradise hotel vs Jersey Shore



Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: HK-47 on July 27, 2010, 08:05:41 pm
A new challenger enters the fray!

The Hills.


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: RiceGuard on July 28, 2010, 03:57:30 pm
A new challenger enters the fray!

The Hills.

I lulz soda out of me nose... THANKS.


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: Opus Fluke on July 28, 2010, 07:58:50 pm
Saw a clip of I.R.A. v. Taliban fight. I.R.A. won (barely). More to do with booby-traps, improvised weapons and the fact that an AK-47 might be Russian proof but it's not all that accurate whereas a bow is. Especially with explosive tips. I heard rumours of a Pirate v. Ninja one...


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: Yutrzenika on July 28, 2010, 08:15:09 pm
Arrow with explosive tips? That's some crazy rambo shit right there. I assume that the arrow tip is home made?


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: Jetraymongoose on July 28, 2010, 08:26:02 pm
The show said Israeli Commando lost to the Navy Seals.

WRONG!

That is complete bullshit and I am calling them out on it!


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: Opus Fluke on July 28, 2010, 08:51:22 pm
Arrow with explosive tips? That's some crazy rambo shit right there. I assume that the arrow tip is home made?

The point was made that the reason the I.R.A won was because they used any weapon that could be home made including historical ones such as the slingshot. These are the kind of people who would just shrug off a zombie attack. Guerilla warfare in suburban, urban and rural settings. These people are/were scary.


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: RiceGuard on July 28, 2010, 08:53:54 pm
Saw a clip of I.R.A. v. Taliban fight. I.R.A. won (barely). More to do with booby-traps, improvised weapons and the fact that an AK-47 might be Russian proof but it's not all that accurate whereas a bow is. Especially with explosive tips. I heard rumours of a Pirate v. Ninja one...

No It was Pirates vs Spartans. XD

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The point was made that the reason the I.R.A won was because they used any weapon that could be home made including historical ones such as the slingshot. These are the kind of people who would just shrug off a zombie attack. Guerilla warfare in suburban, urban and rural settings. These people are/were scary.

Horse sh1t!... I have seen Insurgents arm with a bunch of weapons and I ain't seeing them win battles against U.S. Troops.
Mother Fucker Sioux have fucking Arrows and they didn't beat the Might of the American Military and their suppose inaccurate rifles or muskeet.


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: Opus Fluke on July 28, 2010, 08:59:49 pm
The Irish Republican Army also used guns, mortars, Semtex, letter bombs, torture, intimidation, ambushes and basically anything and everything that came to hand. Think Viet Cong only Catholic and in Ireland. Trouble was the Ulster Volunteer Force were almost as bad. And oh yes, the "Real I.R.A." still blow people up. It's like "Life Of Brian". Only not funny.


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: Raryn on July 28, 2010, 10:13:56 pm
The show said Israeli Commando lost to the Navy Seals.

WRONG!

That is complete bullshit and I am calling them out on it!

It is pointless to get upset over a television show.


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: Yutrzenika on July 28, 2010, 10:21:46 pm
Yeah, we've pretty much already agreed that the show is a bunch of crap, but entertaining crap none the less.
I personally think Navy Seal could beat Israeli Commandos any day.


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: RiceGuard on July 29, 2010, 01:15:11 am
They should just do a special on Cat vs Dogs Jajajajajaja  :humpingparrot:


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: Opus Fluke on July 29, 2010, 03:18:49 am
Proper Vampire v. Sparkly Wuss Vampire


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: RD_Blade on July 29, 2010, 05:14:26 pm
I absolutely despise this show. When comparing one SOME of the weapons are of the same caliber, the experts on said warriors and their weapons tend to be of varying skill levels and knowledge. The forced weapon categories are simply idiotic. Look at any warrior and you can see at least one weapon on each side that was rarely used, possibly in only a handful of instances but put in because it the only weapon they had for that category. The tactics/strategies of the warriors are completely ignored and make any battle, simulated or not largely based on opinion and barely based on fact.

That all being said I like to sit down with friends who have basic knowledge of the warriors battling, have some beers and rip apart the shows idealism as we go into comparison and decide for ourselves. It's great fun in that manner.


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: sok on July 30, 2010, 09:59:48 am
we've pretty much already agreed that the show is a bunch of crap, but entertaining crap none the less.

i think that this says it all.


songo ku vs justice league.


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: Opus Fluke on July 30, 2010, 10:53:15 am
Ideal for drinking games. "Every time they do it wrong: take a drink."
Too Much Coffee Man v. Muff Man!
(Sorry but obscure comics I've been exposed to are obscure.)


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: B-Chan on July 30, 2010, 01:10:44 pm
Gatling gun with mounted rocket launchers and flame throwers VS twig

Twig wins.


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: RiceGuard on August 01, 2010, 03:08:55 pm
Hahaha I got an idea guys... XD American Drinking Warriors vs European Drinking Warriors, and lets base it on the said Beer or Liquor Ok... Ok.

LOL...


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: BrainBlow on August 01, 2010, 03:20:10 pm
I think the reason many people think the show sucks is because of FANBOYISM, and that their favorite choice lost.
IMAGINE if they had put the pirate up against the ninja!
*OOOoooooh*
Of course the pirate would win due to the firearms. But how many people do you think would actually accept that Ninja vs pirate doesn't mean "swordfight only"? FEW!
But I think it is kinda silly when they put modern fighters(SWAT, Navy seals, etc) up against each other and try to make some concrete decision. One thing is a 1on1 between two warriors. Another is team vs team(with firearms). Who wins then is almost entirely circumstantial.

And just to put the ninja thing to rest:
Ninjas were assassins. They were awesome, but not because they were some anime-like warriors that could pwn everything in their vicinity.


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: Cheez on August 01, 2010, 05:48:33 pm
Yeah, we've pretty much already agreed that the show is a bunch of crap, but entertaining crap none the less.
I personally think Navy Seal could beat Israeli Commandos any day.

Your Seals aren't that great. A friend of mine was in the British army, though he's retired now. There was a training exercise that he was involved in (Observing, not combat). One of the fights was between a US Navy Seals unit and a TA unit*. Guess who wiped out the other side, with only two 'casualties'?

Yeah, it wasn't the Yankee Doodles.

*TA = Territorial Army. Basically, the British version of the National Guard.


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: RiceGuard on August 01, 2010, 06:49:40 pm
The Ninja thing is cheap... You're pitting People who were train from birth to become assassin (Sneaking around picking people off.) against fully armed
adversaries :P I mean seriously there was no competition when it comes to choice of weapon... DUH.

funny thing about it, is how people try to decide a suppose Intellectual answer to why a Ninja would lose to a Spartan Infantry... *roll eyes*


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: Colonel_Temp on August 02, 2010, 04:48:33 am
The failure of the Ninja Vs Spartan episode is that if a Ninja was in a face to face confrontation then they'd have failed badly. They're assassins, they shouldn't be fighting a 'fair' fight.

Also, apparently Atilla the Hun is better than Alexander the Great... I don't think so =/


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: BrainBlow on August 02, 2010, 05:06:10 am
I think it is ridiculous when they put historical CHARACTERS up against each other.


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: Colonel_Temp on August 02, 2010, 05:39:30 am
It is. They should have put their respective armies against each other if they wanted to pit them against each other.


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: sok on August 02, 2010, 04:14:59 pm
Bugs from starship troopers vs imperial guard (wh40k)


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: Colonel_Temp on August 02, 2010, 04:17:56 pm
Now this all depends on whether they have Imperial Navy support. :D

Otherwise, alot of dead guardsmen...


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: RiceGuard on August 02, 2010, 05:33:12 pm
Pffft! Starcraft Marine Alpha Squad for the win.


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: RD_Blade on August 07, 2010, 10:04:28 pm
Your Seals aren't that great. A friend of mine was in the British army, though he's retired now. There was a training exercise that he was involved in (Observing, not combat). One of the fights was between a US Navy Seals unit and a TA unit*. Guess who wiped out the other side, with only two 'casualties'?

Yeah, it wasn't the Yankee Doodles.

*TA = Territorial Army. Basically, the British version of the National Guard.

Ahahha, the Seals are pretty bad ass but in the official ranking world wide they're tier 3, not tier 1. Not as good as everyone thinks, it's got lots to do with movie hype and the stories of the hardcore insanely bad ass Seals that are turned into books.


Title: Re: Deadliest Warriors (Wait Wha?)
Post by: sok on August 08, 2010, 06:20:26 am
was there an episode with GROM?