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1  General Discussion / Zombie Stuff / Re: weapons thread 2.0. on: July 20, 2011, 08:42:27 pm
Trench spike.
2  General Discussion / Zombie Stuff / Re: Would the social order still exist? on: July 13, 2011, 08:29:37 pm
Well we also have to factor in the possibility that the richest of the rich may have private security or any number of insurance policies like underground bunkers etc etc. But other then that money will become pointless as the best system we will have will be a barter system and that's based solely on the fact that people will honour their trade and not strongarm their business partners at a later date.

As for the traditional low, middle and upper class system it will largely collapse and then the new system wil be whoever has the most abled bodied individuals that it can use to establish whatever rules it wants if it wants to settle an area. What comes to mind is similar to what we saw in The Book of Eli and that town, run by a single man and his private militia of illiterates. Now maybe not to that extreme but we saw the whole town turn on him as his private army was whittled away to one man with a shotgun.

Travelling alone has benefits but it makes you the most vulnerable as a traveller.
3  Roleplaying / Role Playing Sign up and OOC / Re: Oh hey guys is this another ZS RP? on: July 02, 2011, 10:52:14 pm
The moon hung high over the city as screams rang out through the night.

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One sentence per person. Either speech or story, no mixed sentences. HAVE TO GO WITH WHATEVER THE PERSON ABOVE SAYS
4  General Discussion / Zombie Stuff / Re: How will we live afterwords? on: June 26, 2011, 06:48:24 pm
Well I don't think that even if the urban centres are completely abandoned that they will be worthless. What about a Land of the Dead scenario where humanity seals itself inside of a portion of the city and does manage to maintain access to some of its anemities? If the cities are still there, eventually humans can restart the generators and bring back the cities without having to "re-discover" technology. We also have to think about the effects of global warming if your willing to debate that. In a total end game scenario all of our CO2 producing ventures would cease. Is this in time for the planet to reverse the process? Will we be forced the deal with very extreme weather with limited supplies in the first couple years after collapse before the planet actually begins to show recovery?

For that matter let's ask ourselves about nature reclaiming the cities. I would venture a lot of places would be reclaimed by nature even in the first decade...

*sigh* Its an endless conversation that could change based on basic variables like where the outbreak occurred.
5  TZH Discussion / TZH Discussion / Re: Summer Merchandise on: June 26, 2011, 06:27:14 pm
Too each their own. I was just making it simpler .
6  TZH Discussion / TZH Discussion / Re: TZH: The Movie on: June 26, 2011, 06:23:20 pm
My question is why Chuck Norris has not been considered period? Grin
7  TZH Discussion / TZH Discussion / Re: Summer Merchandise on: June 26, 2011, 12:26:22 pm
Personally I would like a shirt with a sort of design or stain on it that made it look sweaty and dirt ridden with a couple tears with maybe Wastelander spray painted on the front. Something to that effect.

As for the posters I would like a black and white silloutte of each weapon so far used in the novel with some basic information. I.e shovel could have metal head length maybe weight of weapon where firearms could have standard info like calibre, magazine capacity, effective range. Things like the Brick flail you could get creative with.

The armband I would just like a simple Dormant Infection symbol.
8  General Discussion / Zombie Stuff / Re: How will we live afterwords? on: June 25, 2011, 02:36:16 pm
There is a strong likelihood that humanity could recover quickly for the zombie outbreak as opposed to slowly barring any number of factors including the actions by individuals during the epidemic itself. If some governments resort to saturation bombing of urban areas or tactical nuclear devices then we could be in for a whole lot more then gangs and highway robbery. Things like nuclear winter will push humanity to the very brink of extinction and may even fundamentally change us from a biological perspective. There will also be those who will raise the flag of freedom and autonomy as opposed to governing rule. The closest we will see for a long time of any form of government will be individual city-states, trying to build some sort of existence for themselves. The values and systems in these communities could vary widely. Some may encourage people to visit and barter while other could shoot travellers on site.

We also have to think about the resource distribution prior to the epidemic. As individual communities come out into the open it will quickly become apparent who has a lot of what and how well they will be able to protect that from everyone else in this world of haves and have-nots. The possibility of communities remaining in hiding for fear of attack or overpopulation is a large one that even books like the Zombie Survival Guide speak about. There is also the possibility that the remnants of our government could come up for any number of underground installations with their treasure trove of stockpiled technology and skills. Will these ones be willing to follow the rules of the past when the politicians we have now do not?
9  General Discussion / Zombie Stuff / Re: The government's got your back! on: June 25, 2011, 02:24:47 pm
That is also true. Zombies remains are still very much a hazard for infection. Hell you could even kill the zombie, end up getting some blood in your mouth or on your eyes and continue on the infection.
10  General Discussion / Zombie Stuff / Re: Your ideal "Squad" of Survivors on: June 25, 2011, 02:23:21 pm
I'm more partial to the JTF2 but that's national bias. Still well founded though.

Either way these have been some interesting answers and it seems like everybody sees the need for specialized skills but on the flip sides what skills do you have yourself that would make you valuable to your own squad? Let's not forget that each of us have an individual role that needs to be fulfilled. Personally I would forgo the leadership position unless absolutely necessary as I would like someone to blame if everything goes to shit. On the other hand if there was no alternative I wouldn't hesitate to take up that mantle.
11  General Discussion / Zombie Stuff / Your ideal "Squad" of Survivors on: June 21, 2011, 05:06:54 pm
Alright, leaving out obvious shortfalls in logic and reason let's assume you have access to any weapon with a respectable amount of ammo. Pick and choose the loadouts of your squad, how many people will be in your squad, what skills you want in your squad to build on later (i.e. carpentry, gun smithing, horticulture) and any other general information you would think to add. Maybe if you want to get technical you could include female-male ratio's, build types, let's get a little creative here people.
12  General Discussion / Zombie Stuff / Re: The government's got your back! on: June 21, 2011, 04:56:00 pm
@Dodom

Thank you for your polite words and what I think I am trying to get across is that when/if the zombies do reach any sort of critical amount soldiers being human will be a lot more concerned for their own and their kin's safety. Just as we all would be. Its just that those individuals have skills that would make them better at organizing and assembling together especially in survival scenarios where soldiers are trained to differing degrees but all trained how to survive in the wild and certain strategies of how to deal with extremes of climate. While not just being a master of arms each soldier holds a treasure trove of common sense hand me downs that do make them incredibly valuable.

Anything I fault them with, anyone could be faulted with. I'm just saying that when its down to survival I will be more concerned for me and mine as any soldier would be, just that soldiers have access to far better equipment then I ever could and that kind of leverage/power or whatever term you choose can lead to mistakes being made. Again for the sake of continuity.

13  General Discussion / Zombie Stuff / Re: The government's got your back! on: June 20, 2011, 05:56:13 pm
Soldiers are trained to kill, that training they can pass on, those skills are no different then a carpenter, a farmer or a tracker's. I don't understand how my post was misconstrued in such a perverted way but the point is that a lot of young men in the military aren't so noble and what is stopping noble soldiers from taking their families to those military bases and locking them down. Preventing anyone else from gaining their sanctuary and draining their food supplies. This is survival we are talking about. Morality and ethics will become entirely optional and most of the time a luxury people cannot afford. In a world where everything has a set amount that nobody knows it can lead to drastic measures.

Your also right about the fact that such brigands may self implode and the truth is that they all will eventually as you cannot survive on stealing and strong arming alone. That was why my plan involved reaching my sanctuary as fast as possible and holding it from whoever would take it. Once the only things holding the army together are promises from politicians who haven't seen a day of fighting in their lives I have little doubt as to how loyal our armed forces will remain. Sure, many may help their individual families and protect them behind their chain link fences but I don't see them being too interested with anyone outside.
14  General Discussion / Zombie Stuff / Re: War Anthems on: June 20, 2011, 05:47:19 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtpSRAsddEE

Maybe not an anthem per say but I could definitely see this playing during the night where the only safety is within the light and next to your weapon...
15  General Discussion / Zombie Stuff / Re: Machine Guns and the Scythe Principle on: June 20, 2011, 05:44:25 pm
I was just arguing semantics really. If you came across a machine gun with .50 calibre bullets and had plenty of them then this principle of mounting at a higher height to get a better "chance" of getting a headshot will increase the average amount of bullets that hit the head because you move the bullet to air density up the body. Any kind of LMG puts off rounds that punch through bodies so if fruitful circumstances arise then this could be a better application then simply walking around with it.

Again you could argue the next point that an LMG at leg level, cutting swathes into an approaching horde, while killing next to no zombies does blow their legs apart. Legs blown apart means no walking and I would much rather deal with a horde of crawling zombies then walking/running ones.
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