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1  General Discussion / Game Discussion / Re: What are you playing? Episode 2: Sequel Reloaded! on: August 31, 2014, 02:58:25 pm
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Depends on the game. And personal preference I guess.
It doesn't really matter in FPS for the most part, but stealth games I generally prefer controller if I have the option. It's easier to use a stick than to fiddle with a mouse wheel or various keys.

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Look, if you're playing chess with me and when you're about to lose a piece you throw the whole thing to the ground and demand we start over. You may be having fun because you'll never lose, but that's not what chess is about. What I'm saying is I hate casualisation of games that used to require skill. So what if you're caught? You're a thief and if you get caught you're generally screwed (tbh even in Thief you aren't THAT screwed, unless you really fuck up). Reload a save and try again. But if you can whip out some bullshit slo-mo ninja stuff to get out of any trouble, then where's the challenge? I like to sometimes play on easy sometimes, maybe set a game up so that I can't lose. Winning IS fun, but I get more fun out of overcoming challenges by myself, not because the game did that for me.
Fair enough.

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Off that top of my head: the new Hitman and Thi4f (it has bullshit pressure point karate, but the principle is the same). Dishonored also has easy-mode teleporting drop-kills.
Ah, I never played either of those. Never been a Hitman fan, and I heard mostly mixed things about Thi4f, so I avoided it.
2  General Discussion / Game Discussion / Re: What are you playing? Episode 2: Sequel Reloaded! on: August 31, 2014, 12:46:25 pm
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The controls are fine if you're not a console peasant that can't comprehend more than 6 buttons. Sure, the speed system in SC was awesome, but it doesn't make or break the game. Thief was built around its control system and it works.
They're not gamebreaking, but they are annoying, take some getting used to, and probably could have been done better. Though I kinda rebound my keys to standard WASD, with shift to control speed, and Control to crouch, and that seems to be working fine. It seems having S set to be that slow walk isn't totally necessary.

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Maybe if you complained about the inventory system, then I could agree with you.
It's sort of the same inventory system as Duke Nukem 3D/Doom Source Ports, so I guess I'm used to it.

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(I guess that's why you Americans have "Food is hot" warning labels)
I'm Canadian.

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Also: "controllers are more precise". Buehehehehe.
Controllers are better for character movement, not aiming. With WASD, you only get 8 directions, and depending on the game, one or two speeds for your character to move in, with control sticks you get a lot more freedom of movement and speed over your character compared to a keyboard.

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Nowadays, retard gamers can't lose in a game, because they want to have "fun".
God forbid people want to have fun.

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That's why the new Metal Gear has slo-mo when somebody spots you.
To be fair, they did stick in options to disable all of the handholding slowmo stuff that makes Ground Zeroes/Phantom Pain easier.

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Dishonored also has the lean system where you're invisible no matter what.
In my experience with Thief so far, it's the same way, I've not been spotted when peeking around well lit corners.

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In modern stealth games you have a "Press x to do an awesome animation killing all your opponents".
The only modern stealth game I can think of that has that is Splinter Cell Blacklist.
3  General Discussion / Game Discussion / Re: What are you playing? Episode 2: Sequel Reloaded! on: August 31, 2014, 12:05:43 am
You're casual for complaining about a game that's aged extremely well. Thief's not without its faults, but the atmosphere and stealth mechanics are unsurpassed to this day. You sound like you're too used to zipping from cover to cover using cinematic takedowns.
So what are you, MLG Pro Hardcore with your call of duties? If it makes you feel any better, I have been playing it more, and it has been growing on me. Now that I've kinda got a feel for the movement and how the guards react to certain speeds it doesn't feel quite as slow paced, since I better understand how things work. But I don't think it's totally flawless. Better than a lot of modern stealth action games? Sure, I'll give you that, most modern stealth games are too easy, I love Splinter Cell Blacklist, but it's very easy to run through capping guys in the head. Sniper Elite 3, and Mark of the Ninja are very good examples of well done stealth action games, in my opinion.
Anyways, the issues I have are that the movement controls are a bit awkward, since it uses WASD and X, they tried to cram a lot of various movement speeds in there. It's not terrible or anything, but it's awkward, and takes getting used to, it could have been simplified a bit I think. One of the bigger gripes I have is that the guards can be pretty unpredictable about when they can and can't spot you as well. I've had them bumping right into me and not spot me, and then I've had them spot me immediately from a distance.
I still think that the game is too punishing when you get spotted, I understand it's a game about thievery and stealth, and that being caught should be a punishing experience, but it really just feels unfair, rather than giving you a hearty challenge to overcome. Your primary means of self defense basically amounts to you mashing left click on the guard until they fall over, which wouldn't be a bad thing if they didn't take forever to die, by the time you've killed a single guy, you probably have other guards on your ass. Your other option is to run and hide, but it feels like the guards can outrun you. I just end up reverting to last save since trying to hide or trying to defend yourself or evade the guards feels pretty much hopeless.
The last issue I have is more of a nitpick, but it kinda bugged me, in a couple levels you encounter zombies, and weird underground monster things, which really threw me off, because they act totally different from the guards I had grown used to. Neither of them were really difficult to overcome, zombies are slow as shit, and the monsters die easy, but it's kinda tedious, and throws off the games pacing.

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You sound like you're too used to zipping from cover to cover using cinematic takedowns.
I don't really see what this has to do with anything. You still go into cover in Thief, to peek around covers, from behind things, etc. The only difference is you're not hitting a button to hug a wall like in Splinter Cell or what have you, but they both serve the exact same purpose. I get into cover in Thief to safely peek around corners, and I do the same thing in games with cover systems.

As for cinematic takedowns, again, I don't really see much of a difference in holding left click and clonking a guy on the back of the head in Thief to knock him out, or going up behind a guy in Dishonored and briefly holding the mouse button down to get a quick animation of me choking him out. It has the same desired effect, just one has a little more flair.

4  General Discussion / General Discussion / Re: PP: Not having a Pet Peeves thread. on: August 30, 2014, 07:52:06 pm
PP: Not being on the forums as much as I used to. I miss you guys!!

The forums are pretty dead these days. I'm rarely here anymore.
5  General Discussion / Game Discussion / Re: What are you playing? Episode 2: Sequel Reloaded! on: August 30, 2014, 05:38:33 pm
Jesus, how casual can you get?
I'm casual for not enjoying a game that hasn't aged well? Okay. At least I'm giving the game another chance.

Started The Walking Dead Episode 5.
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EDIT: Finished episode 5.
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6  General Discussion / Game Discussion / Re: What are you playing? Episode 2: Sequel Reloaded! on: August 29, 2014, 07:55:52 pm
I laughed.

Giving Thief 1 another go. I bought it, so I feel obligated to finish it. On mission 4, Assassins.
7  General Discussion / Game Discussion / Re: What are you playing? Episode 2: Sequel Reloaded! on: August 27, 2014, 09:04:13 pm
I played the first Bioshock and ignored the second one. so i guess the joke's on you  V Huh? V

Also, Playstation, you would get more money out of me if you backwards compatible'd your older games, damn it. [shakes fist]
You're not really missing out on Bioshock 2, it's basically the exact same game as the first Bioshock. Bioshock Infinite... They sorta Call of Duty'd it up, two guns only, more linear, recharging health, stronger emphasis on combat over exploration, stuff like that.

Just finished TWD Season 2. The ending definitely didn't pack as big a punch a season 1, but it was still pretty solid. I'm looking forward to season 3.
I still need to play the finale of that. I think I'm gonna be done after Season 2 though, I'm just kinda losing interest, and some aspects of the writing have been bugging me. It's probably not going to end anytime soon either, just like the comics and the TV Series.
8  General Discussion / Game Discussion / Re: What are you playing? Episode 2: Sequel Reloaded! on: August 26, 2014, 04:29:03 am
I don't have my ps2 ... or i don't have the cords for it. ; ^ ;
the biggest pet peeve is playstation doesn't even bother with the backwards compatibility because of something.

But, I bought James Bond: Blood Stone for like 4 bucks.
And Bioshock Infinite, I haven't played it yet so yay. 
Nightfire was released on basically every platform known to man, it's on PC, and I'm sure you can run it. It's not on steam, so you can just torrent it.
Sony did do backwards compatibility for PS3... On the original "Fat" models. But then they figured "PS3 has enough games, we can cut out backwards compatibility for the new models." So all the Slim models don't have backwards compatibility, and what's funny is that as soon as they did that everybody started rereleasing their PS2 games in PS3 HD Collections.
Bioshock Infinite... If you're a fan of the first two, prepare to be disappointed. :I

Been playing Red Orchestra 2 online, soooo much fun, easily one of the most enjoyable World War 2 shooters I've played in quite awhile. Last server I was in had Russian players. IT'S LIKE I WAS REALLY THERE AT THE BATTLE FOR STALINGRAD.
9  General Discussion / General Discussion / Re: PP: Not having a Pet Peeves thread. on: August 18, 2014, 02:58:36 am
PP: When you're reading a manga you really like online AND THEN THE ALL THE NEXT PAGES DISPLAY ERRORS FOR THE IMAGES AND YOU CANT READ ANYMORE AUGGGHHHH
10  General Discussion / Game Discussion / Re: What are you playing? Episode 2: Sequel Reloaded! on: August 17, 2014, 02:49:51 pm
I've been playing Quantum of Solace. It's a mix of Casino Royale and QoS. It's actually a pretty decent game, imo. A LOT better than 007 Legends. Legends has so many bugs that I'm regretting it every time I sit and play it, but I want to finish it, damn it.

Basically Goldeneye Reloaded > Quantum of Solace > 007 Legends.

I'm trying to find the others like Agent Under Fire, Everything or Nothing and From Russia with Love. i'm sorry i get such a lady boner for James Bond, daniel craig or not
Like HK-47, I totally recommend Nightfire. So much fun.
11  General Discussion / Game Discussion / Re: What are you playing? Episode 2: Sequel Reloaded! on: August 16, 2014, 06:17:46 pm
Yeah, there was that. It definitely didn't come close to living up to the hype, but let's be honest- how many video games do? I guess I got it long enough after it came out that I'd forgotten the hype, so could enjoy it for what it was.
Yeah I definitely still had a lot of fun with it.
12  General Discussion / Game Discussion / Re: What are you playing? Episode 2: Sequel Reloaded! on: August 14, 2014, 03:53:30 am
Finished Dead island: Riptide yesterday. I thought it was a DLC, not a sequel, for bloody ages. Why I only recently bought it. I found it rather similar to Dead Island, though with a few extra features. I really don't get why those two games got so much flak, I liked 'em. Very fun.
They received flak because the first game had a very well received, emotional trailer to go with it, the final game has you playing as 4 stereotyped characters, with a pretty forgettable story, with none of the emotion from the trailer. Graphics aren't very pretty, full of visual glitches and stuff. I did enjoy the first one though, I really dug the analog melee system. I look forward to Dead Island 2, which looks a lot more tongue in cheek, as well as techlands new zombie game "Dying Light".
13  General Discussion / Game Discussion / Re: What are you playing? Episode 2: Sequel Reloaded! on: August 11, 2014, 11:18:54 pm
Well that was my experience of the 5 or so hours I spent playing it. I had no trouble sneaking past guys for the most part, but it just really drags on and on, since a slow walk over gravel can alert guys through stone walls, and the only way to sneak without making noise is by moving at a snails pace. The "Alert Phase" of the guards feels too punishing as well, I mean I know the goal of stealth games is to not get caught... But the guards can outrun you and take forever to take out, it doesn't really feel like I have any sort of chance if I get caught.

This is also kind of the reason I had trouble getting back into the first three splinter cell games after so many years, they're just mindnumbingly slow paced, and the enemy AI is kinda wonky.
14  General Discussion / Game Discussion / Re: What are you playing? Episode 2: Sequel Reloaded! on: August 11, 2014, 04:31:57 am
Giving up on Thief. As much as I love stealth action, I just cannot get into it, playing newer and more refined stealth games has probably ruined it for me. It's absurdly slow paced. The AI is a little too aware, being able to hear you through walls, and then there's basically no way to defend yourself if you get caught. Being caught basically means "Open the menu and load last save because there's nothing you can do." The one time I did try to defend myself, I whipped out my sword and basically left clicked on the guard for a full minute before he died, I could have just been trying to make another attempt at sneaking past in the time it took to kill him.
A quick google search shows Thief 1 and 2 take on average about 20 hours to complete just for a straight playthrough. I just don't have the patience to play something like that for 20 hours
15  General Discussion / General Discussion / Re: PP: Not having a Pet Peeves thread. on: August 06, 2014, 10:16:08 pm
For the most part, the story to me, is AMAZING. everything else, not so much. The controls are wonky, little to no response on the PS3 controller, too many glitches, the "fighting" parts of the game just slow everything down. When you have to exorcise the demons, it's the same way every damn time. I felt like it could have been so much better if there was a way to "upgrade" getting rid of them, etc. I'd give it a 6/10 and not worth playing again. Though, I do want to 100% the damn game, so I might play it through one more time to do so. I only need three more achievements.


PP: going from nights to days sucks hardcore.
Oh god I hate that, when games just tack on fighting. Condemned 2 had the same issue. It's a psychological horror, there's combat and such, but you mainly rely on melee weapons (which break after too much use), and guns can be found, but ammo doesn't last long at all, and they're few and far between. End of the game it just becomes a full blown FPS, dropping assault rifles for you everywhere.
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