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« on: June 19, 2017, 10:45:11 pm »

Probably you guys have this kind of topic here by now but since I can't find it so I think it's okay to start a new discussion?
So recently I've read a bit about spiritual matter in real life. Basically they classify that there are 3 types of spirit, depends on the spirit's learning level:
1) The low-level spirit - These spirits have little knowledge and experience. Most of them haven't achieved higher learning and they mostly act for their worldly desire. These souls are often "fooled" by shamans and witch doctors. These shamans and witch doctors capture these low level spirits to work for their bidding.
2) The medium-level spirit - These spirits have achieved an amount of knowledge. Imagine they're like us human living on this earthy plain, they understand knowledge, but they're still partly affected by worldly desires like pride or greed. These spirits can still be "fooled" by shamans and witch doctors, though at lower rate.
3) The high-level spirit - These spirits have achieved extremely high knowledge and experience, they're the one closest to god and they're also the one secretly help the humankind in need.
So according to this, it seems zombies can be real in these two scenarios: 1) shamans and witch doctors create them, though I dunno how they can do that, or 2) low-level spirits possess a person body and take control.
(it doesn't sound like zombies we've seen in entertainment industry, though i sense some similar characteristics)

This also remind me when one of my friends (he's Swedish) and he told me that people have succeeded in creating zombies in real life for war, by sticking a spike (or something, sorry I don't clearly remember) on soldier's head. They are not really zombies on entertainment industry but they're like zombies since they can't feel pain and they will always follow orders... and that's true scary story.
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« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2017, 12:28:45 pm »

To start with, I am in the zombpocalypse can't happen camp. This would sum up why: http://www.cracked.com/article_18683_7-scientific-reasons-zombie-outbreak-would-fail-quickly.html.

As far as the spirits part, I see it like this; all the stories you hear about spirits usually revolve around the reason or reasons the spirit has to hang out here. Without that emotional tie to our plane or a bioelectric field, I don't believe they have the power to manifest let alone have the substance to be studied.

Also, your Swedish friend has it wrong. That spike in the head thing was actually early attempts at neural/mechanical interfacing. They weren't trying to make better soldiers, they were attempting to make pilots who could operate vehicles on a more instinctive level. All they ended up making were brain damaged test subjects. The human brain has a very low tolerance to foreign objects inside the skull. Especially if they are harder than brain tissue and don't move with it.
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« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2017, 06:57:34 pm »

Ok, I've been thinking on this some since a trip I made to a Native American reservation and I think there is a way that this could work.

After learning about the Great Ghost Dance, zombies might be possible if the power of the Great Spirit was invoked to trap the spirits of the White Devils in their bodies after death to suffer decomposition as punishment for the past sins of the America's theft of the Land and their disrespect of it since.

Being forced to suffer decomposing would drive them insane and thus make them homicidaly violent. The whole biting thing could be a compulsion to consume endlessly as further punishment. Any humans they kill would then be trapped in their bodies in turn, restarting the cycle of punishment.

Who knows, this whole zombie thing could really be the work of a few really devoted and somewhat demented shamans looking for that big get even. Screw Orcus, zombies could be a spiritual Little Big Horn on the whole damn planet.

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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2017, 10:24:24 am »

OK, the karmic vengeance of the Shaman's resonates.  Cool

That said, I acknowledge the Cracked article, but if zombies have other mechanisms, they could indeed "survive".
1)  Poisonous innards that kill off pests and flies.
2)  Hive mind intelligence.  This has been hinted at here, particularly once you look beyond simple crawlers.  I've posted on the implications.

Watchya think?
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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2017, 03:23:20 pm »

That's the thing I have a problem with. Zombies are mindless eating machines. For lack of a better term, that's part of their charm. Jenny's comic strikes me as something of a video game zombie apocalypse and less the more Wlking Dead kind.

By adding intelligence to zombies, you reduce them to more or less cannibal humans with a contagious skin condition. The herd instinct, to me, isn't so much hivemind development as much as one sees you and moves and others see it move and then move.

To me, the magic of a good zombie tale is that the zombies serve as an environmental stress that forces a rapid societal evolution into a new form as a result. Most all of the survivors think their way is the best and so miss the simple truth that the society that survives does so by changing with each and every new member until it's usually too late. The zombies are the only survivors that cannot change.

It's almost as if the human survivors too stubbornly kling to the pasts they can never have back. Instead they must evolve through natural selection until they luck into enough reason to break that cycle once again.
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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2017, 03:26:39 pm »

Also flies eat roadkill. Zombies are roadkill that can still chase after you some. I don't see how it could be any other way.
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« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2017, 01:18:32 am »

Only time will tell if Zombies really can exist!
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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2017, 02:05:40 am »

Only time will tell if Zombies really can exist!

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