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« on: June 13, 2010, 11:26:03 pm »

Sinces people have been discussing them and posting pictures and the like I thought hey, lets create a topic about em.

Post pictures, discuss or show videos of your favorite Roguelikes here.

(Wondering if I should include Diablo and the likes since there classified Roguelikes under Wikipedia's law)
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« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2010, 11:27:36 pm »

Diablo is not hard enough.


Apparently, this is NetHack, only not ASCII.

Also, I really want to try Shiren the Wanderer.
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« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2010, 11:44:38 pm »

The DS version is the way to go, so you can have pain on the go.
And that totally beats what I found.

Diablo... How forgiving, even though I never played it.
Technically, but there's roguelike, and there's Roguelike.

But you have great taste in creating a topic like this.
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« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2010, 07:07:03 am »

I've been playing Rogue since TLO mentioned it was free for the iphone....

One of the most frustrating, dream-crushing games I've played so far was when it gave me the best weapon and armor in the game as well as a multitude of scrolls and potions in a single treasure room on the first dungeon; there were so many monsters in the damn room I reached level 4, quaffed a potion and it granted me level 5. Go to dungeon 2 and it throws me in the middle of ice monsters that proceed to kill me of hypothermia in 2 moves.... /facepalm
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« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2010, 11:23:19 am »

Ouch... You're elevated to God-hood and it brings you right back down.
Damn, nothing I've done can compare to that.
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« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2010, 11:36:13 am »

Yeah, *shrug* it's frustrating but really not too bad, just becuase I didn't spend a whole lot of time on it. Defintely dream-crushing, thinking that I was lucky enough to get such a fortunate start that I could progress far, but dieing in games where you dropped a ton of time is still the worst.

My best go so far is to dungeon 10 at level 8, simply ran out of food while searching for the secret door hiding the next set of stairs...kind of anti-climatic death for my longest run, but from what I've read there's 26 dungeons and then you have to go back up, so I've yet to experience the time-drop horror of being nearly out of the game and finished only to die of something equally stupid; those people I feel truly sorry for.  Tongue
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« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2010, 01:03:53 pm »

Shiren the Wanderer. were doing this. were making this hapen.
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« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2010, 01:37:04 pm »

I've been playing Shiren, its pretty great. But question, do your levels reset everytime you leave the dungeon?
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« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2010, 09:48:03 pm »

I died in Shiren the Wanderer!!!! FFFFFFFUUUUUUU- HK SAVE ME!
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« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2010, 09:59:23 pm »

I died in Shiren the Wanderer!!!! FFFFFFFUUUUUUU- HK SAVE ME!

Ahh... I... Don't have Wi-fi, my brother. And where did you kick the bucket?

I've been playing Shiren, its pretty great. But question, do your levels reset everytime you leave the dungeon?

Every time as in when you die?
Or when you enter a town?

Going to restart Shiren, my first save file has too many bad memories...
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« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2010, 10:57:06 pm »

When you first enter town. I was like at level 4 and went back to 1.
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« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2010, 10:57:46 pm »

The mines, I believe. Not too bad for my first try, right?
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« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2010, 11:16:18 pm »

I get all teared up after continuously seeing that defeat on floor 30... Restart confirmed and now beating innocent animals with my fists.

Good as a first run? Better than that! That's past the town with the jars. And considering that you started fresh.

Spoiler: I call it that due to the Melding Pot you get... Eventually. The God of Pots.

When you first enter town. I was like at level 4 and went back to 1.

I'm unsure, but I'll find out soon enough.
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« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2010, 11:16:30 pm »

I hereby anoint this topic AWESOMESAUCE!

So... on the subject of Roguelikes I've played.

Rogue (of course) the father of them all and very good.  Amadeus, I have never had treasure drops that good that early and to have them yanked so soon thereafter is sad but seems fitting somehow.  Welcome to the Roguelikes.  

NetHack is my favorite, I've spent countless hours playing it, I ascended to the astral plane ONCE, whereupon my deity personally smited me for being a heretical ass before I could claim godhood for myself.  Apparently karma IS a bitch.  Some people supposedly have games they've spent in excess of a decade playing without completing and then you have guys who have completed it in excess of 20 times within a month.  I'm happy with my puttering around and getting my ass handed to me.  Most embarrasing death?  I polymorphed into a red dragon which was fucking epic.  I tore ass through level after level of the dungeon, ripping my foes apart with claws and melting them with my fire breath.  I was unstoppable.  But... I made two mistakes.  Mistake 1.  I didn't remove my armor before polymorping, which destroyed it in the process.  2.  I drank the wrong potion, which instead of healing me reversed my polymorph.  You can imagine how long I survived in an advanced level of the dungeon with no armor...  Second most memorable death was being killed by my own ghost who had starved to death on a previous play through (yes, you can encounter ghosts of your previous failures.)

Related to NetHack I dabbled briefly with it predecessor Hack but NetHack had so many more features I didnít stick with Hack for long.

Angband is very good.  Based heavily on Lord of the Rings lore, it had a predecessor, Moria that I never played.  Angband was hellishly hard even by Roguelike standards and I never got very far into it, repeatedly being gangbanged by Nazgul and Balrog discouraged me after a while and I havenít fired this one up in years.

Doom the Roguelike is awesome, I first heard about this one from one of my college buddies who remembered my misspent time in college either playing NetHack or surfing www.doomworld.com and I canít repay him for the joy Iíve had playing this beauty.  If you like Roguelikes and Doom you just canít go wrong.

Shiren the Wanderer.  I got this for Christmas when it first came out for the DS from my cousin who thought it was just a JRPG.  Just glancing at the box I had the same impression and I put off playing it for about two weeks.  But once I did I quickly realized I had been given solid gold.  Despite the graphics (I usually prefer my Roguelikes in ASCII) itís a real honest to goodness modern roguelike.  The only concession it makes to the player in the way of ease is that you CAN stash items that will last between lives.  This may not seem like much but if you can keep taking a sword out, grinding a few levels into it and then stashing it for later it WILL make your ďfinal runĒ playthrough a LOT easier.  However this also adds a further sadistic level of soul shattering horror when the ďfinal runĒ fails short of the mark and you shriek to the gods ďI JUST SPENT FOUR FUCKING MONTHS LEVELING THAT GOD DAMN SWORD!!!!  WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT FROM ME!?!?!?!Ē  Iíve gotten closer in Shiren to completion than I have in any other Roguelike, like close enough to see the finish line only to have it snatched away at the last possible second with the maximum amount of anguish rubbed into my already salted wounds.  I still havenít recovered enough to play it again but the itch is still there, I think any day now Iíll start climbing that damn mountain again.

Iíve heard the Pokemon mystery dungeons are ALMOST roguelikes but I havenít played them.

I think that's enough ranting for now.
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« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2010, 11:24:51 pm »

Truth in Shiren: 200%
In everything else: 150%

And Pokemon Mystery Dungeon is technically a roguelite... But I never played them either so I'm just making an assumption.

When you first enter town. I was like at level 4 and went back to 1.

Now I can confirm that it does that. Reached level three and it sent me back to one.
Time to do the free riceball trick.
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